Current visibility: Hidden. This item will only be visible to you, admins, and anyone marked as a creator. Current visibility: Friends-only. This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. A simplified Guide to the master files for Legendary or Special Edition. This item has been added to your Favorites. Created by. Avrie Online. Category: Modding or Configuration.
Languages: English. Guide Index. From the author Why should I do this? When should I do this? What do I need? Start with Update. A word about Navmesh errors. Now lets do the rest in order. And finally the last few edits. Trouble Shooting. Final thoughts. Change Log. Hello everyone, This is just a quick heads-up that with the official release of xEdit 4. Not only does the new version clean more and better, but the procedure has become more or less automated with some caveats I will be releasing an updated quide for use with all of the above games.
In the mean time I would highly recommend viewing the tutorial video from Gamer Poets. The simple answer is because the original game Master files. ESM include multiple references to identical items, but more importantly they also include references to deleted items that can and will interfere with some mods working correctly.
What we accomplish by removing these "dirty edits" is a more stable game environment if you are installing mods. No it won't make it faster, or prettier Bethesda didn't bother cleaning the original Skyrim files, then in their infinite wisdom didn't bother again, when they had the chance with the release of the special edition, but it is still needed.
Just add this to the list of things that "could" have been fixed but wasn't. The sooner the better for a new installation, and also everytime Bethesda releases an update, or if you need to verify the integrity of your game cache. In short, any situation that downloads and replaces your master files with fresh copies. I chose to work with fresh masters for this guide.
There is only one tool required for cleaning your master files, and that is Xedit. Please make sure you download the current version. Note, the newest WIP versions of Xedit 3. This is not a problem. Actually they are the same program, you can simply rename it, I'm just trying to keep it simple Extract the download to your preferred tools folder, or simply to your game drive.
Please be careful when you're navagating to the data folder as the two games are virtually identical. Then just double click on the data folder after sellecting the correct game. Therefore it needs to be cleaned first, and by itself.
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Showing 1 - 15 of 38 comments. Stahl View Profile View Posts. Thumbs up! Chibbity View Profile View Posts. Isn't this just a really long winded way of saying: Back up your saves, delete all Skyrim local files, then re-install? After reading much of the discussion and arguments, some of which I have thought about before reading this, I still would recommend cleaning them, especially with how easy it now is with the quick auto clean feature.
I will say that it is not as detrimental to the Special Edition version of the game as it is with the other games, and it can probably be skipped with very little likelihood of problems.
I also doubt that not cleaning them would yield substantial issues within the STEP guide in and of itself, but since STEP has always been considered to be a guide providing a very solid platform to mod on top of, it should remain at least as a highly recommended step. I am open to different ideas, but the arguments I have seen against cleaning them seem rather unnecessary.
I can't find any documented instances of users experiencing problems from not cleaning them; perhaps I'm not looking in the right places.
But Arthmoor in his Reddit post which I now can't find but it was about a year old specifically mentions bug reports to Github as a result of cleaning the masters, and he confirmed this via email. And there's other anecdotal content on various forums matching this. Mator is one of the contributors to xEdit and his view has always been fairly consistent - it's a waste of time, assuming one is using USSEP.
If it isn't being used then cleaning is recommended. So I've had a separate discussion and it seems, at least some of this, stems from xEdit's mishandling and errors during the cleaning process that have been fixed since fixes possibly still in beta versions.
These are a few of the reports:. Then there is also the argument that the vanilla files work whether they're cleaned or not. Personally, I'm not aware of any negative effects that would result if the vanilla masters are left uncleaned. I conferred with Arthmoor on this and he said the same of not being aware of any issues. He went on to say, " the game seems perfectly content to play with uncleaned masters " note this is solely in regards to using uncleaned masters and not to mods.
I haven't came up with any additional references, either for or against, but this is enough to start a proper discussion In regards to xEdit's handling of the vanilla masters One point to note is that, like any tool, there are bound to be bugs. The devs fix such bugs when reported, however, this brings up one "big question", which is the unknown.
How many such bugs exist that are simply unknown? The reported bugs very clearly bring up the question of how well is the cleaning of the vanilla masters tested.
A missing worldspace is a large thing to miss! With what information we have now, the real question is Is the risk worth the benefits?
Consider that we've already stated In summary, the DLC are all a horrifying broken mess that Bethesda somehow frankensteined together in a way that CK would never save it, and any modification to the them outside of the carefully controlled environment of QAC is not supported.
Link to citation? I accidently removed those points with my recent edits, but I put it back and up top since it applies to both wiki and forums. It's always been expected when discussing topics like this to post references to your citations, especially important when quoting users. I'm sure you can understand why.
I also gave the bullet the same update I gave the rest of the Guide the other day. One of Mator's posts. Another point that should be noted is that console users are not likely to have "cleaned" vanilla files. This seems roll off one of the point Mator makes of authoring without cleaning the files. However, later on he does say, " The chance of that harm is extremely low and requires you to be a mod author creating plugin files.
However, there is a remote chance a mod author could cause a CTD within a specific set of circumstances. He also confirmed it via email to me but as it is personal correspondence I can't cite it.
As to why if only using USSEP , no specific reasons were given, just Arthmoor recommending cleaning for 'patchophobes'. Mator follows up and the conversation can be read on your own. Try to ignore any tones of hostility or passion Such a fine line You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Already have an account?
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